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July 24, 2010

Kwikset Smartkey Problems...

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Came across an interesting blogpost today that has several comments by product users, all complaining about similar problems shortly after installing Kwikset Smartkey locks.

One such comment by a poster....

"Our smartkey failed this evening. We locked both deadbolt and door as we left, came home to locked out. I called kwikset and after working with them on the phone trying to wiggle the key to the 1/4 turn position to try and get it to the learn position – nothing worked. The customer support person said since we had keys duplicated using the grinding method instead of having a locksmith stamp them out the keys had made the cams in the lock out of alignment. I asked CS how we will get in if we are on the OUTSIDE wanting in and he said we would have to either find another way in or drill out the cylinder. They are sending a replacement cylinder. No thanks – I don’t want to take the chance."

Another...

"My husband just bought this and installed it yesterday. While “rekeying” to our key, it stopped working! Now both the key that came with it doesn’t open the door nor the new key. I was looking for the company’s website for troubleshooting the problem and found this! Glad we kept the receipt as this installation is not continuing! Thank you all for commenting! You are saving more people from getting ripped off with this lock!"

Another...
"What a nightmare.My baby boy moves out to his first house and buys the kwikset smartkey to assure his security.comes home one night,pouring down rain and 28 degrees outside cant get in the house the key doesnt fit the lock .He has to sleep out in the car all night long.what a nightmare.never again will a smartkey be bought especially $80.00.there needs to be a recall on the kwikset smartkey.what a let down."

Another...
"What a joke, installed YESTERDAY, worked perfectly fine until coming home today with groceries and a 6 month old, to find out our key no longer worked. Was told by customer service that this is NOT an issue and people do not have this problem (Obviously I told him to check this website, because he was wrong)

Option one, I can take the deadbolt off my front door to bring to Home Depot and have them fix the lock, which would leave my house unsecure as there would be NO lock on my door. The other option is to wait 5-7 days for a new lock from them. He said the new lock they will send me is more efficient then the one month old lock already installed and he guarantees it will not have this problem.

In the meantime, how the heck am I supposed to get in and out of my house if my lock doesn’t work?

WHAT A JOKE! Take these stupid things offffff the market"

Another...

" I received the new smart key cylinder from

Kwieset and installed it on the front door. From the get-go I had problems, only some of the existing keys worked. Bought new keys and they seemed to work better for a short time. Now they are giving me problems. I have to jiggle them inside the lock to unlock the door and even now they are giving me problems. Finally I had enough: no trust in the lock and never knew when I would be locked out again. I took the smart key cylinder out and installed the old lock, which is a non smart key. At least now I have peace of mind that it will always work. I am keeping the old smart key locks, because I know with all the problems that everybody is having, there has to be a recall and maybe I can get my money back, but I will not hold my breath. Keep complaining to Kwikset about the so called smart key. I wasn’t very smart to buy it in the first place."

Many people seem to think that locksmith services are too expensive. In fact locksmith services are often cheaper than purchasing the DIY products from the big box hardware stores, because locksmiths have taken the time and training to master their product lines. Installation, service, maintenance all taken care of by a true technician with experience in the field.

I understand the perception that DIY is often cheaper, but realistically the locksmith (one of the oldest professions) has deliberately trained to service, advise and protect consumers from the poor advice and suggestions often received at the big box stores from untrained, unknowing part time sales assistants.

I regularly see both Kwikset Smartkey and Schlage Securekey products in the field. Often they are purchased by consumers at the big box hardware stores because most locksmiths refuse to stock them.
I can easily reset the tumblers for clients, often because they have lost the reset tool for the Kwikset or are simply unaware that the process is uncomplicated. The Schlage Securekey is a little more complicated process to re-key, but this is because many customers no longer have access to the blue reset key.

For the better (and often cheaper) products, visit your local locksmith today and find out the why's and how's behind purchasing suitable functional and correct locking systems and products.





10 comments:

  1. I just had a renter locked out of her apartment due to the door NOT being able to be unlocked by any key! There were no other access areas, so I had to remove the door trim and break the door in! So, now I will likely have to replace the door because of the patch job I had to due this winter. Then I see that this is a known issue with these sets!! I will return it and NEVER get another one....good idea, faulty product! Shame on you Kwikset Smartkey manufacturer!!

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  2. We got the smart-key a few months back. At the start, we had many problems and the company had come to our house multiple time to "fix it". After they "fixed it", within a week another problem occurred. Mostly, the company told us we had done something wrong when we never touched it. Their employees did everything. Now like most of you, we cannot lock the door. Thankfully, we knew something like this would happen, so we got a back-up chain lock for the time being. Very unsatisfied with their work.

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  3. I've installed 11 Kwikset and Baldwin Smartkey level sets and deadbolts in my owner-occupied 2 family. After 3 plus years of use, they continue to work without incident.

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    1. In many cases the product is okay and continues to work well, however often a problem can occur when "non-original factory produced keyblanks" are used to duplicate original keys.

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  4. As a locksmith my best suggestion to you is to go with the old traditional Kwikset hardware. These locks sometimes fail and it's just when you really want to get inside your home...

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  5. I wrote Kwikset about the thing locking when trying to rekey it. They wrote back this IDIOTIC question as a reply: "Why would you not want to re-key correctly?" Like I did it ON PURPOSE!!!

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  6. Parents had a Weiser smart key lock installed on my apartment door. Been here for less than 3 years and have had to rekey more than once. Got fed up last night when lock would no longer 1/4 turn and bought a new lock without this stupid technology! These products need to be recalled because clearly there are manufacturer's defects!

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  7. I hope you purchased your new product from a locksmith as opposed to a big box hardware store. Supporting small businesses like locksmiths is fundamental to local economies and they generally provide you with a higher quality standard of care.

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