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December 7, 2024

Raynor Garage Door Rekey - Post Revisited from February 2019

 

Raynor Garage Door Lock - Rekeying Procedure Without New Tumblers

 We revisit this post today due to the increasing quantity of views over the last five years….


About 6 weeks ago we took a call from a customer who requested service that no one else would provide,

The customer has an old Raynor brand garage roller door on her garage and wanted to have the lock rekeyed.

This door is about 75 years old and all the companies she called (before me) would not work on the existing product, preferring to instead attempt to talk her into buying a new automatic roller door.

After becoming annoyed at not having her needs met, her search for service led her to find me.

This first image shows the Raynor Operating handle and key cylinder from the outside.
 You can see in this second image, the configuration of the inside mechanism and how the lock and handle attaches to the door.

The chains on each side are attached to spring loaded "latches" that firmly hold the door when closed, into the running tracks.

It is not necessary to remove the lever handle to work on the key cylinder, simply remove the four screws to pull the lock casing from the frame.








The rim cylinder is quite old and still functioning well for it's age even though it appears to be slightly corroded.
The tailpiece is secured with a roll pin through the back of the cylinder plug/barrel



Here is another view of the rear of the cylinder. You can see the roll pin sitting through the tailpiece and the back of the barrel

This is an image with the roll pin and tailpiece removed

This image shows the plug/barrel with each pin tumbler removed


 We set the plug up with the new keyblank inserted, into our vise after switching some tumblers around to "alter the combination" making it different to the original key.
Measuring the new key blank and the existing plug with the new combination pins correctly inserted

 Next, we marked each corresponding spacing of each pin tumbler using our impressioning file.
Using the impressioning file to "cut" the new key directly from the pinning

 A different angle shows the progress being made in forming the new key
 Slow and steady processes, are important to maintain meticulous and exact work. We only file a little at a time and constantly check and recheck our work, so we dont "mess" it up.

This helps to make sure we do not ever need to replace parts if we accidentally lost them because we wont.
Careful processes lead to positive results

The key is almost completed

 Constantly rechecking our work to ensure the best quality.
 The completed "new key" is the brass one. The old key is the silver one we are changing
Completed and rebuilt without the need to replace anything.


Now, you can purchase after market cylinders still for these doors, but I am old school and prefer to keep as much original as i can.

One reason is that manufactured items in previous years were often produced to a higher standard and designed to last.

Unlike many of the products found in the modern era that are deliberately made using inferior raw materials and streamlined processes that often punch out significantly greater quantities while giving up quality control, in the sole intention of making sure consumers are required to constantly be purchasing new and replacement parts. (thereby keeping manufacturers in business).



The art of the craft of locksmithery can be very interesting to us old time trades people. This is just another example of the types of requests we locksmiths receive.

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